Technocracy and Mediocracy
A turn of the wheel to truly representative government is the holy grail of politicians and anarchists - but reliance on computerised systems creates a technocracy, and corruption is an integral component in most human power systems.If the techno bugs could be ironed out and the watchers watched, then there is still the problem of media control of the mindscape - TV will usually determine the outcome, after all.
Ever has it been thus – the modern extensions or oratory and rhetoric blind people to the realities behind easy the platitudes of ‘leaders’ – also a term for headlines. The daily news overflows with examples of poll-driven government for the rich, by the rich, yet most people fail to respond with anything but support for the system which maintains them at a balance between comfort (or luxury) and desperation. Rich lawyers run the world – but for whom? I'm reminded of the scene in Catch 22 where the young American says to the old Italian, "Better to die on your feet than live on your knees!" and the Italian says, "No, no, you've got it all wrong, it's better to live on your feet than die on your knees!"
POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC INSANITY!
ARE
WE SANE ENOUGH TO FIND
REALITY?
Well Robert - on further consideration of your comment, I hope you don't
mind if we publish it as an article on New Illuminati?
Thanks for your time and erudition
R. Ayana
I like your site. So tell me how you became interested in the Technocracy
concept...
Thanks Robert, I read your underground mathematical revision of
"Equilllibrium" John Nash's Nobel Peace Prize winning work.... as I
translated it into the English language, the simplicity of your
Technocratic concept becomes evident.
As you say the, the best result comes from everyone in the group doing what's best for themselves, ALL groups, and ALL the natural world through the governing dynamics of free energy systems.
Yes,yes,yes!!! Think about it, a free energy based society!!!! If everyone
were guaranteed an abundance of what we required to sustain our lives,
there would be no psychological need to commit crimes against man or
nature, there would simply be no need to hoard, or be greedy, no need to
create the illusion of scarcity of resources in order to perpetuate the
value of a make believe dollar, etc...
PA wrote- What would motivate people to work if money became worthless?
I actually met Mr John Nash in NYC around 1992, before I really new who he
was, before he won the Nobel Prize for his 'Equilibrium' that he worked on
back in the 40's, he is an interesting guy, he got me thinking in a strange
sort of way, it was like he opened a channel in my brain, he is quite the
eccentric, we talked a lot about Chaos theory and I argued with him, and I
said didn't think that there was such a thing as Chaos simply because every
reaction in the known physical universe is preceded by a well ordered
sequence of actions and knowing and or discovering what these actions are
is the key to solving our most complex social, energy and environmental
problems.
Thanks to Robert et al...
When I was young, I wanted to be an unclear physicist, Robert. Then I grew
up. Now I live in a remote century old, two room wooden shack in a
rainforest. Technologies - the solutions they provide and problems they
create - are a hallmark of humankind. According to many of those who appear
to be technologically and scientifically literate, humans would be
reasonable, happy and social beings if they were treated reasonably,
instead of being coerced and enslaved to create profits for short-sighted
control freaks.
This is a reasonable view, although it would be equally reasonable for
those with multifarious experiences (in the 'real' world outside academia)
to point out that many humans are far too fundamentally damaged to ever be
reasonable; regardless of how egalitarian societies may be, or of the level
of equality of opportunity, there will always be inveterate losers and
congenital winners - just as there will always be those inveterate Luddites
who prefer nature's vicissitudes over the comforts of civilization. There
will always be mindless destroyers and equally reactive and insecure
control freaks who aim to sit athwart the summit of the hominid totem pole.
Certainly, Nash's insights show us ways to appreciate the imperatives
within which all conscious beings dwell. Doubtless we can consciously steer
our way into the new millennium to create something far closer to paradise
on Earth for all - far more perfectly, fairly and cogently than any
civilization which has hitherto existed.
Nonetheless, it's unwise to underestimate the gross stupidity and jealousy
of many (remembering that up to fifty percent of the population is always
'below average') or the intrinsically human-hating natures of warrior and
religion-based societies (like most of the cultures in which we, the slowly
expanding base of change agents are embedded).
It's also wise to consider that we may only have a narrow window in time
through which to explore these mundanity-transcending possiblities before
martial laws and disasters constrain us once again.
A clear mind is not enough - and isn't actually possible to maintain
without compassion. Thus it behoves me to point out that technological
solutions are only as good as the beings that create, maintain and inhabit
them, regardless of their superiority in terms of efficiency.
Are you familiar with the Venus project?
see http://www.thevenusproject.com/
And thanks for all your ongoing interest in a MEANINGFUL LIFE.
Very well stated, thanks for your kind and considerate reply, I will take
it under advisement. I always thought that the conditions of the cage are
what determine the behavior of the monkey's inside of it.
The Venus Project? Jaque Fresco has his own agenda, much of it based on
biased opinions and beliefs. Now there is nothing wrong with entertaining
ourselves with beliefs, some of these beliefs are quite imaginative. It's
just not what Technocracy is about. Technocracy is defined as a government
of skill, and function by artists, engineers and technical experts whose
goals are to simply measure the most energy efficient ways to operate the
production and distribution system without any form of monetary-political
interference elements.
In a price-money system, there are always going to be a few winners and a
vast majority of losers, and who in their right minds would choose to be a
loser, and that sets the stage for immediate conflict, and wherever or
whenever there is conflict there will NEVER be lasting PEACE.
These "short sighted control freaks" that you talk about are not
necessarily bad people, the rich have simply inherited a system that
benefits them, or they have simply learned to capitalize within the
framework of an INSANE price-money system.
You are absolutely right Jon, we should not be blaming anyone for the
problems we are faced with. The rewards system is broken.
Indeed, the reward system is broken - but it was DELIBERATELY broken by
those who profit from maintaining it in that form. The cage determines the
shape of its occupant, but is also designed for that occupant.
Inheritance is no excuse for perpetuating hypocrisy. The money myth is
carefully maintained by everyone in the global pyramid scam we take for an
'economy'.
PS - I rejected all the garbage I was being taught in the very
best schools in the notional nation where I landed as a baby. Everything we
were being taught was epiphenomenal - nothing we were taight was seminal,
cogent, revolutionary, interesting or enlightening, much as today. Now I
live in a rainforest, way off the grid, and have to travel many miles and
pay a premium to access the net - some of this life is documented at
http://hermetic.blog.com
Live long and prosper, fellow terranauts!
If you create -and actually LIVE in - parallel systems to the dominant
paradigm it may even wither on the vine. Turn On, Tune In, Opt Out!
see also
http://newilluminati.blog-city.com/ring_wood_charter__living_agreements.htm
Well, this is certainly an interesting conversation. The worlds economic
system is destroying itself, and yes, it was designed that way.
Perhaps a relevant question here is 'who guards the guardians' or 'who
watches the watchers'?
See for instance -
http://newilluminati.blog-city.com/who_watches_the_watchers.htm
Can we
trust any technocracy (or other system of governance) without real
democracy?
Which monkeys will watch and corrupt a system that is based not on scarcity
but rather on a natural state of abundance of everything that the monkeys
require for survival?
Wasn't M. King Hubbert JFK's Top energy advisor, I mean he was the head of
the US Geological Survey wasn't he? M. King Hubbert was head of Technocracy
inc, hmmm he was a pretty bright guy, who wrote a report titled ENERGY
RESOURCES; Report to the Committee on Natural Resources 1962, he wrote this
report after JFK requested it, and the results and or findings from that
report, led JFK and company to find ways to install a "Steady State
Economy" interesting how the think tank Technocracy might play into all
this, including the reason why JFK was killed and no alternative system has
been attempted since that day in 1963.
Technocracy is REAL democracy, technocrats simply find out what people want
and they go out and produce it for them abundantly!!!! Yes, Technocracy is
already here man, and so is the idea of democracy, but ask yourself, what
the hell is interfering with the EXISTING Technates optimum functioning
capacity? Well, what can it be? It's our collective willingness to believe
in the myth of MONEY and politics, yes the PRICE SYSTEM is the problem
here.....
A brilliant dialog... aye, Robert, the money myth creates a continuous
downward spiral, and free energy - and information - are the keys to
ongoing abundance. The modern world may well be a technocracy, yet
(in)vested interests remain another brake - aside from inherently
inflationary monetarism - on our natural progression toward a humankind
unfettered by ingrained fear and mistrust.
Technological fixes are not the motive for finding creative solutions - all
creative, non-reactionary incentives are located in a more subtle plenum of
human consciousness and activity. Compassion and awareness are the
hallmarks of our deeper selves communing through these surface substrates.
The universe and mind are holographic in nature and structure. Every one is
everyone, intimately and implicately connected, and we are all recovering
from a blow to the collective mind; an amnesiac species still emerging from
a healing sleep.
As such, all our systems are provisional constructs suited to the time and
circumstances in which they exist - and the times they are a'changing!
Thanks to you all for focusing your thoughts, consciousness, compassion and
time on the most fundamental issues of our era.
Education is the key to eliminating these entrenched monetary elements that
you do so well to write about, if not education, then the natural laws of
nature will bring us all back down to earth. It is after all, physically
impossible to sustain an ever expanding price system economy in a finite
world.
It makes no difference who owns the sun. What concerns us vitally is
whether we use it properly or not. No lovers ever quarreled about who owns
the moon. Neither does it make any difference who owns the earth if we can
discover how to use it. Ownership is a MYTH. If we once get to using our
resources and our industrial and transportation systems to their full
capacity, nobody will be fool enough to care whether they are owned or not.
Hubbert's Prescription for Survival, A Steady State Economy
He was probably the best known geophysicist in the world to the general public because of his startling prediction, first made publicly in 1949, that the fossil fuel era would be of very short duration.
1 Albert A. Bartlett, "Forgotten fundamentals of the energy crisis," Am. J. Phys., Vol. 46. No. 9, September 1978
Additional recommended reading material:
5. Daly, Herman E. "Toward a Steady-State Economy", 1973 W. H. Freeman & Co.
6. Daly, Herman E. and Cobb, John B. Jr. "For the Common Good, Redirecting the Economy Toward Community, the Environment and a Sustainable Future", 1989 Beacon Press
7. Daly, Herman E., & Townsend, Kenneth N. editors, "Valuing the Earth, Economics, Ecology, Ethics"
8. Theobald, Robert, "The Challenge of Abundance", 1962 Mentor Books
9. Theobald. Robert, "The Guaranteed Income, Next Step in Socioeconomic Evolution?, 1967 Anchor Books
10. Theobald, Robert, editor, "Committed Spending, A Route to Economic Security" 1969 Anchor Books
11. Theobald, Robert, "The Economics of Abundance, A Non-Inflationary Future", 1970 Pitman Publishing Corp.
12. Theobald, Robert, "The Rapids of Change, Social Entrepreneurship in Turbulent Times" 1986 Knowledge Systems, Inc.
13. Theobald, Robert, "Turning the Century" Personal and Organizational Strategies for Your Changed World" 1992 Knowledge Systems, Inc.
14. Watt, Kenneth E. F., "The Titanic Effect , Planning for the Unthinkable" 1974 Sinauer Associates, Inc.
Did you guys know that Nickola Tesla advocated Technocracy, and was the
first fellow to plant the seeds for the birth of Technocracy inc., formerly
known as the Technical Alliance at Columbia University??? Wow, he was it,
the dude, the genius who knew it all before it happened... The first time
travel man!